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Sen. Boxer Join Representatives in Official Objection to Ohio Results
posted by Anonymous at 1/06/2005 01:50:00 PMNOTE: YOU ARE VIEWING AN ARCHIVED POST AT RUNNING SCARED'S OLD BLOG. PLEASE VISIT THE NEW BLOG HERE.
It will be interesting to see how much "mainstream" coverage this gets, and whether it proves useful for Democrats or causes a backlash.
Did any of you see "Fahrenheit 9/11"? Do you remember the C-SPAN footage with House Democrats getting up and objecting to Bush's election, but not a single Senator coming on board?
It's going to be playing out differently today. Senator Barbara Boxer, a Democratic senator from California, signed onto a challenge mounted by House Democrats to Ohio's 20 electoral votes. This is an official objection that automatically triggers separate two-hour debates in the Senate and the House.
About 50 minutes ago, in a joint session of Congress, Vice-President Dick Cheney, as the Senate's president, began the procedural reading of each state's electoral votes. Judging from the time on Kos' entry, it looks like the objection was made at about 1:37 pm EST.
Is it going to do anything? No. Both chambers of Congress are now heavily Republican. Both the House and the Senate would have to uphold the objection in order for Ohio's votes to be invalidated, and that ain't gonna happen.
Nevertheless, it may bring to light some of the problems that existed in Ohio, including, as Rep. John Conyers (House Judiciary) put it, the "intentional misconduct and illegal behavior" of Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, who also happened to be the co-chair of Ohio's Bush-Cheney campaign.
The Associated Press article circulating on this recounts that this particular process has happened only twice before: in 1877, it was a dispute between Rutherford Hayes and Samuel Tilden. (Hayes won.) And in 1969, a "faithless" elector in North Carolina who was designated a Nixon elector instead cast his or her vote for racist George Wallace.
Interestingly enough, that happened this election too - I hadn't heard about it. Had you? A Minnesota Kerry elector cast a ballot for Edwards, instead.
Links:
P.S. As I was looking at the headlines, I notice that "senior Democrats" are asking McAuliffe to stay on board. If they do, I'm strongly considering calling myself areluctant recovering former Democrat. Hey, Jazz, want to found the Moderate Party?
Did any of you see "Fahrenheit 9/11"? Do you remember the C-SPAN footage with House Democrats getting up and objecting to Bush's election, but not a single Senator coming on board?
It's going to be playing out differently today. Senator Barbara Boxer, a Democratic senator from California, signed onto a challenge mounted by House Democrats to Ohio's 20 electoral votes. This is an official objection that automatically triggers separate two-hour debates in the Senate and the House.
About 50 minutes ago, in a joint session of Congress, Vice-President Dick Cheney, as the Senate's president, began the procedural reading of each state's electoral votes. Judging from the time on Kos' entry, it looks like the objection was made at about 1:37 pm EST.
Is it going to do anything? No. Both chambers of Congress are now heavily Republican. Both the House and the Senate would have to uphold the objection in order for Ohio's votes to be invalidated, and that ain't gonna happen.
Nevertheless, it may bring to light some of the problems that existed in Ohio, including, as Rep. John Conyers (House Judiciary) put it, the "intentional misconduct and illegal behavior" of Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, who also happened to be the co-chair of Ohio's Bush-Cheney campaign.
The Associated Press article circulating on this recounts that this particular process has happened only twice before: in 1877, it was a dispute between Rutherford Hayes and Samuel Tilden. (Hayes won.) And in 1969, a "faithless" elector in North Carolina who was designated a Nixon elector instead cast his or her vote for racist George Wallace.
Interestingly enough, that happened this election too - I hadn't heard about it. Had you? A Minnesota Kerry elector cast a ballot for Edwards, instead.
Links:
- Democrats to Force Debate on Ohio Results
- Congressional Record -- the actual dialogue should be up here in a day or two.
P.S. As I was looking at the headlines, I notice that "senior Democrats" are asking McAuliffe to stay on board. If they do, I'm strongly considering calling myself a
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